Did Chick Corea Perfect Midi Jazz?
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Unknown
Yo, Adam. You seem to be quite the mood today.
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Unknown
Yeah. Peter, we're talking about Chick Corea today, so, you know, I prefer chick on a synthesizer. Really? Yeah, I like him on the acoustic. Yeah, but what about, like.
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I'm not a menace. And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening to the you'll hear it podcast. Music explored. Explored. Today, Peter, brought to you by open the studio. Go to open studio jazz.com for all you jazz listening principles. I want to write that down. Open studio and yeah, actually I do want to go there because you have a little thing called Harmony games over there.
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Unknown
Well, I'm gonna write that down to Harmony Games Online Limited. Sorry, I wanted to add that. Limited. That's an important, important bit. New new lesson every week. New lesson? Yeah. Every single Monday we release a brand new harmony game. Not unlike your jazz piano method, which is a new lesson every Friday. So we like to do things once a week.
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Unknown
Yeah. Don't sue us. But yeah, we're having a great time over there at the Harmony games. It's a it's a guided practice session with our trio, and we're just working on, like, simple triadic pop songs. A lot of fun. Nice, nice, fun fact. Totally unrelated to what you just said or what we're about to talk about. Are you okay with that?
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Unknown
Yeah. I thought this was tumeric tea. It's not. What is it? Turmeric. I was just told by my friend, the barista. Down it down the street. Turmeric, So, Chick Corea, Peter has a long and storied history with different trios. Yeah. We're talking about one of the most storied trios that was really fun to play. A little guy to match.
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Unknown
Give it up for Caleb Kirby and Bob to be in the fight. That was super fun. I hit about 90, well, 88% of the notes on that hit, man. I mean, I might to hit 90%. It's a lot of notes. It's a lot. And so we're going to get into that. Noteworthy hadn't played that since the 80s since I had hair.
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Unknown
Oh not a hair since I used to go to the hair parlor. Cool club. Can we put a picture of Peter with some hair up there, please? Thank you. So, man. So this episode we're going to be working on listening to talking about breaking down the Chick Corea Electric Band. Yeah. You know, this is kind of out of what we usually do.
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Unknown
Peter. We haven't done any sort of like real fusion. He I mean, we've done all the Herbie stuff in the 70s and whether or not we like it to some other. Yeah. I mean, years ago I think we listened to Heavy Weather once. We could definitely get back to that album, but we haven't done some like straight up 80s fusion ever.
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Unknown
Right? And I know there's a lot of electric band heads out there. Yeah, wacko heads and and chick heads who are probably going to be excited about this. But it's funny because this really, this album is so different. It was such a departure at the time. And we'll talk about, how dated or undated it seems like.
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Unknown
I feel like I know where we're going to go with that. So just to set the stage a little bit with chick himself. So chick started his career, of course, playing more straight ahead music. And when he was young he was recording with a bunch of different musicians in 1962, 1963, 1964. Here's a little bit of chick with Sonny Stitt on Sonny Stitt Goes Latin.
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This is Autumn leaves from 1963. Hum.
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Unknown
But.
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Unknown
I don't.
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Unknown
I so just 23 years old here. Hey, I mean, I can hear chick kill it on the copy, but you can be so sublimated in the mix. Dang. He doesn't. I mean, this didn't hit the the, mixing engineer. Did he know he did not. This was. Yeah, he's he's very subtle in the first couple albums that I could find on him.
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Unknown
Now, of course, he starts gaining some recognition and he really comes to sort of the national and international jazz stage playing with Miles Davis in Miles Miles's late 60s groups and early 70s group, famously, like Bitches Brew. Yeah, on the corner and stuff like that. But and I believe excuse me for for interloper, but I believe Earl a little earlier than that.
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Unknown
Even now, I could be thinking of Keith here. I ever heard of him, but I think it was Chick Corea. First played with Miles subbing for Herbie Hancock when Herbie got married and was on his honeymoon in Brazil. I feel like that's correct. Which would have been, I don't know, like 65, 66, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, that would have been right when chick was sort of coming up and making a real name for herself.
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Unknown
Yeah. So he's on all of those, like in a silent way and like I said, Bitches Brew. But yeah, this is, I love this album. We should cover this period of my album point. You know, we really should hit in a Silent Way and Bitches Brew and face the Kilimanjaro. And this is Farallon Run. Chick is only on a couple of tracks on this, and he's playing the RMI, which I think is Rocky Mountain Instruments.
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Unknown
Oh, electric piano. So this is like, it's not a Fender Rhodes, it's not a Wurlitzer. It's a RMI Electra piano.
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Unknown
And again, we're getting into some leading up to some fusion thing. He's doing straight ahead stuff this whole time as well. So this is 1968. This is the year before. Now he sings. Now he's some great rapper, great physical jobs, great work.
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Unknown
So that's 1968 50 Kilimanjaro fees. I think it's. You're saying it was such confidence I'm feeling. I should say I always thought it was fee for lay. Not Phyllis. I mean, I would say, Phyllis, I don't know if that is the probably Kilimanjaro. Phyllis de Kilimanjaro. Kilimanjaro that we know. Kilimanjaro? Duh. We know fi de fees or de dah giro Felice.
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Unknown
Yeah. Let's move on. Okay, next up, we've got light as a feather. This is chicory with return, to forever. And this is your everything? Yeah, we're straight up in the fusion 70 seasons. This is just five years later. Yeah, 1973. Oh.
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Unknown
Oh.
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Unknown
In my life, nothing seems so right. Has to be. We do. We end when I'm with you. Oh, I always sing your everything. Oh, and l style us by floaty like a bird. Oh, but brother, we my even song zipper volume pedal on the my roads. He's got to I think he's used oh the met so effective.
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Your everything okay chick on the roads. Come on man, it doesn't get any better. Well, you ever heard the DX7? Yes. Well, we're going to type. I mean, chick is a master of the Fender. He was already then. And, I mean, I got to hear him play it live like he really. Yo every, like the nuances of that instrument.
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Unknown
Joe's album. George Duke Herbie of course like Stevie Wonder. But I mean chick had a special a great special relationship. Sacred. Oh, I mean like and he was a great accompanist, a vocalist, great arranger. I like that rubato stuff. Like, I got to hear him live. A number of times with, with Bobby McFerrin duo like such a Chick Corea par excellence company is for vocalist in a rubato situation with oh man stretching out harmonically.
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Unknown
Come on, come on, come on. Well, let's stay with this. I love the 70s, and we we can we stop in the 70s. We cover so much music in the 70s, Peter, that I wanted to go to the 80s. Today. We haven't really we haven't touched on a lot of stuff on the 80s. We've talked about black codes from the underground.
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Unknown
Yeah, but I think that's about it. Honestly. I think that's the only 80s album we've ever talked about. I know a girl we got to do. I'd write it down too. I got a great one. And it's, you know what? I a little, a gentleman we already listen to today named Miles Davis. Miles Dewey Davis from the 80s talking about Tutu.
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Unknown
No, I don't sleep. I love you, too. It's not that. But anyway, we'll come back to that. Okay. But this is. You're right. Like, this is an important. Like if we're gonna have five most important jazz records of the 80s or even three most important, I mean, it's got to be in there. And that's why we're doing it.
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Unknown
Yeah. So he spends the rest of the 70s. Here's what I love about the 70s, though. Like chick, Herbie, Keith, they're all making all of these weird albums and then straight ahead albums and beautiful solo piano albums. McCoy two. And then they'll make like, you know, chick makes like the Mad Hatter. That's like the concept album with strings and all this great stuff.
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Unknown
And yeah. And then in 1986, he hooks up with two younger musicians, Dave Wacker. Yeah, and John Powell to tune. They do a much younger, much younger. They're I think they're about 25, 24 or 25 when they first start playing with chick and they go on a world tour and an acoustic band setting, but it's the it's the birth of this Electric Man album.
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Unknown
And, you know, chick was always so on the cutting edge of technology. Yeah, you mentioned the roads, but throughout the 70s and the 80s, Chick and Herbie were always experimenting with different new technologies that were occurring in music synthesizers. Yeah. And I don't know if you remember the mid 80s, Peter, that synthesizers were a big deal. I remember musically, you know, FM synths, synthesizers, the DX7 sort of dominates that mid 80s time period.
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Unknown
Can I get my cartridge? Can I get my car? You want that cartridge. It's important. And and I think he's got some some compatriots here with Palatucci and Wacko because you know on this album Rickles playing some electronic drums, he's doing some drum programing. Yeah. And I mean chicks on on the Electric Man album, his his synthesizer lineup is just incredible.
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Unknown
He I mean, he must have been made a deal with Yamaha. So a Fender Rhodes electric piano that's mated to a Yamaha 816 rackmount synthesizer. Yeah. On some tracks, the Yamaha Midi keyboard, the Yamaha TR 816 rackmount synthesizer. It's like they had that the model numbers for every Fairlight CMI, the Syn Clavier, the Linn 9000 which is a drum machine.
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Unknown
The Synclavier was a hip like. I remember playing on one of those one time. That was a hip, situation. George Duke used to play it. Speaking of hip. Yeah, he's playing the Yamaha five keytar synthesizer, the kids five Yamaha 816 rackmount synthesizers on that, a mini Mog, a Yamaha one, a Yamaha seven, Yamaha 16 rackmount synthesizers for that.
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Unknown
And the gongs. This is what old school what the gong of all is fails. It's electricity goes out and you just be like gong. Isn't that crazy? And there's no piano on this record, is there acoustic? I don't believe there. I don't think there is. Yeah. So there's some piano adjacent sounds on the D7. I want you to.
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Unknown
I want you to picture it. Yes. It's 1986. Yes, I was 15. Topgun. Yeah. Is in the ether. Yeah. There's a lot of earnest synthesizer music happening. That's right. My advice is, one of my favorite movies is about to come out. It hadn't come out yet. You got you got soundtracks for like Miami Vice. Yeah. For Bladerunner. Yeah.
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Unknown
Incredible stuff. And we're really getting into that really crystal DHT seven ish period. Oh, I thought you say crystal something else. I'm like, no, that was later. That was it. And and I'm just I have one question, Peter. Yeah. Said after setting the stage, which is are you ready to rumble?
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Unknown
You. Hello, 1986. This ain't Axel Foley. Well, kind of.
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Unknown
Who?
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Unknown
That's some big drums there, right? Yeah. Oh.
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Unknown
There you.
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Unknown
Hey hey hey hey.
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Unknown
Bruh.
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Unknown
Right.
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Unknown
Oh, it's so killer, man. Yeah. You know. You.
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Unknown
Hey, it's a lot of harmony being suggested by these lines.
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Unknown
No. Based on this one. All right. That's right.
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Unknown
But what's the. Oh. It's perfect. Oh.
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No.
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You.
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Unknown
What would you call this groove?
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Unknown
What would you call this group? What do I call this? I would call this.
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Unknown
It's got to start with neon. Whatever the name of the group is. Right? Neon pentatonic, blues scale. That's the heart.
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Unknown
Neon. Miami nights, sweet. Swampy neon punk.
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Unknown
Oh, my.
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Unknown
This is the first track, right? Yeah. So this is the first track of the original release, right? So on Spotify now there's another short track beforehand. Yeah, that came out later. You.
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Unknown
Now that's chick you. Whoa. Okay. I'm tired. Can I take a can I have a cigaret, please? Now imagine that you're just. You're just chilling with your girl. No. Light a candle. Romantic candle. Put on a little rumba. Let's get ready to rumble. It is not the most romantic music in the world. It is. It is now. I mean, it's really like it's a vibe.
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Unknown
And if you're trying to, like, think about. Although, I mean, if you got a girl to tend to that, maybe keep her. Yeah. I mean, it's a musician. It's a musician. I mean, it's such a, tour de force to start out the record. It is a little bit like, where does it go from here? But I mean, well, just, you know, it's an understatement to say he has great technique, but he has great imagination within that, too.
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Unknown
And it's like, I mean, to me, the Lin drums, the Simmons drums like of that period. Like it takes a little bit away from like the humanity of. And I don't just mean because it's, it's just so early in that kind of game. It is wack. I had a great concept on it though. I mean, it's amazing what he's playing.
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Unknown
I love hearing him just playing on drums on a little bit, but I mean, it's like they're really exploring the possibilities on this for sure. I totally agree, yeah. Totally agree. Next up is sidewalk.
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Unknown
Which I believe is also just duo. I can be wrong about that. There might be some guitar on this actually.
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Unknown
I mean, that's a lot right there. Oh, yeah. This will feature Carlos Rio something guitar. Oh, there he is.
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Unknown
You. Family. It's a lot, man. Yeah. This album is a lot. And it is. It's not even for me. It's not even like the sense, but the style of playing. Yeah, that chick and Dave Rachal are doing the set up. This album is very, very maximalist. There's a lot happening. It's always like like, yeah, every beat is filled, it's into something.
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Unknown
And then it's, dense. And then I think what Dave well, adds to any situation that he's ever played in is this, like incredibly crisp, bright drum sound and like these, these fills, it's just like precision and precision. Yeah. The the fills a pop at the end of phrases. You really didn't hear a lot before him. I mean, another thing you listening to this is like, you know, if you're thinking like that sounds dated or this is how everything sounds, whatever.
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Unknown
Like not much sounded like this at the time. Yes. You know what I mean? Like, this was kind of a revolutionary, kind of like thing. I mean, I think in LA there was definitely a group of musicians playing. Yeah, I'll kind of like this. I mean, chick was in LA at the time I was living in LA then.
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Unknown
I mean, it, it it did evolve from something. It didn't just come from nowhere. 100% of like everybody else kind of hearing New York, too. There was a scene of this chick putting his chick thing on it. Exactly. And like, organizing it. Yeah. Codifying it. Yeah. It's been this particular like, I think this record and the and the follow up albums have been just copied to hell yeah.
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Unknown
So many bands now Tali stage band it out every, you know, every fusion guitarist can play. Gotta match it like, you know, 450 B right. Or if it's been played a Berkeley College of Music, I don't I don't think so. I don't think so. We should introduce it. Okay. You brought up an important point and I'd already written that word down.
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Unknown
We have to. It's a little bit the elephant in the room. Yeah. Dated is this a dated album? Is this a dated song? Because I was at first, that was my first thing. And listening to this again, and it took me back to I remember when this record came out, obviously didn't feel dated at the time, but how has it aged?
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Unknown
Do you want to do this now? Sorry. Oh did you was this in the notes? I have some quibble bits about this, but okay. We could do this now. Yeah. Okay. Well sorry then your quibble a bit later can be me preempting your. No no no, let's let's talk about it. So because it's obviously it's a very 80s.
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Unknown
Like I love records that sound like they're from the place. Yes. The city, the time that they're from. I mean, like, I don't need some hipsters playing like French guitar, Gypsy jazz from the 30s today and trying to make it sound, you know, you know, bad fidelity and, like, you know what I mean? That's fine. No problem. But I mean, like, this is very authentic to me.
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Unknown
So yes, it's dated in the sense of like, oh, that's 80s, but I don't I mean, why would we say why is stuff from the 80s more dated than from the 90s or 70s? Because we do have a little bit of a knee jerk reaction, I think. And I've got my I have some ideas on it. But do you think that Headhunters is dated?
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Unknown
No. You mean dated? Yes. Good, good dated. But you know that it's that's an album from the 1970s. Yes. Or do you know, because it could be ripped off from the 90s and from today. Well, yeah. And it's hard because any of these records, we know them so well, somebody could make stuff that sounds like somebody is. Yeah.
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Unknown
But yeah, I mean what a producer camp was like. Yeah, some of this sounds kind of like Thundercat when you hear them live, you know? Yeah. And that's like legit. Yeah. That's right. That's what it is. I think musically and stuff. There was a lot of innovation here. There was a lot of cutting edge stuff. I think the dated part of it is that like so there's that freshness even in here.
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Unknown
And again, like the way wacko plays stuff because he's probably like from a technical standpoint, I'm not even a technical, just like he's one of the most influential drummers of that generation for like the Max. I mean, every drummer at this time for kids out there, you have no idea how how the monsters on the wall. Yeah. He was such a drum hero.
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Unknown
Yeah. In the late 80s, early 90s, all the way up to the 2000. So today, I mean, people like him love him, but that when he was young and here coming out of the out of chicks bands, I mean, everybody was trying to play like him in the early 90s. But I do think there's certain periods where the technology is pushing ahead of like our ability as musicians to really harness it into like the organic flow of how we organize our output.
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Unknown
I think sometimes hits in different periods where it ends up sounding dated because like those lean drums or Simmons drums, there was another one, like there was so new. I like we get excited as musicians like, oh, we're going to use them on everything, and we haven't quite figured it out. Yeah, outside of a few things. And I mean, that's that didn't happen in the 70s was synthesizers.
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Unknown
But those synthesizers, like all of a sudden it's like you got the keytar, you've got the DX. It's like there's so many different sounds and stuff and and look, chick is killing it on these instruments. But to me, I loved his stuff even in the 70s, like his acoustic piano playing, his Rhodes, playing these instruments where there's more guardrail, it's like when you take off all the guardrails.
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Unknown
Yeah, it takes us a little bit of a time maybe to catch up. So you end up falling into this like a little bit of a dated sound. I don't know, I'm gonna push back a little bit. Okay. Why? Why is a Fender Rhodes in the 70s more timeless than a D7 in the 80s? Right. I think that because the the, the acceleration of the technology in the 80s with the all these other keyboards was so much faster than the Rhodes, like the, the Rhodes like that this was more revolutionary, whereas the Rhodes is more evolutionary.
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Unknown
Coming out of the Wurlitzer, coming out of the acoustic piano, it's still like it's kind of still an acoustic instrument in a way, you know? And so like once you able to have synthesizers, which of course they had before we had all that great discussion about tanto on the Stevie stuff, you know, Stevie Wonder, I mean, certain people just able to like, put those guardrails up themselves.
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Unknown
I would say this is a record. And look, records without guardrails are really fun and awesome. And to me, that's the celebration. It's like you meet the record at where it is. If you're going into this to try to hear chick's most swinging lines, although he actually does do that, but it's going to be on a guitar. That's the thing, you know?
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Unknown
But you're not going to hear it in the same way as you hear it on matrix. You know what I mean? You're not going to hear it the same way as, which was not that far before this, when he did the two piano double album, I mean, the two piano record with Herbie Hancock, which I think is some of his most amazing playing.
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Unknown
And so it's like you meet this record where it is and it's like kind of chick goes crazy at Guitar Center with Dave Whack, like egging him on. And it's it's an amazing thing to hear. I think. I think what you're hinting at, which I think is probably a legitimate point, is that does the technology sort of take over the album rather than the music?
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Unknown
And I think you could make a case that with all the programing and the kind of technology and like you said, it's a very specific zone. Yeah. Of new digital music technology. We talk about that too, because that's a big part of this. GRP records, the digital master, the whole thing. Yeah, that digital sound. It might just be a little too heavy handed in retrospect.
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Unknown
Yeah. Might just be like a little too much of like sometimes we'll hear Nirvana from the 90s and you're like, oh my gosh, that sounds incredible. Always. It's just this classic sound. Yeah. But then you hear some bands that were like in that grunge scene, you're like, oh boy, that sounds really 90s. Like they don't make music like that anymore, you know what I mean?
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Unknown
Yeah. And so I see what you're saying where like the production might, might have taken over and I wouldn't say it's taken over. It's just very like, like use the word maximalist. That's what I was like. They're pushing everything. They're pushing the number of instruments, the editing on this, the digital editing, like you can just hear like they've got everything like lined up the programing and stuff.
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Unknown
And it's not a bad thing. It's just it does like dated in a certain way. And to me, I mean, look, Chick Corea is such was such an amazing musician, such a big influence on us. I know our whole generation of not only pianists, just musicians. I mean, I can't overstate that. So it's like it's not every one of his records should be the same.
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Unknown
Like, this is not my favorite record of Chick Corea, but like, this is still this is not like a throwaway thing of Chick Corea. Like. And for me going back into this because like, I was. So the other thing is like, how do we experience? Because when this record came out, it was like a year after Black Codes from the underground, which I was really into because I love Kenny Kirkland.
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Unknown
I mean, I love Branford and that whole thing. And then this was like so different. And then J moved from when Marsalis came out the same year. And so I was very much into that. Like, I'm my guardrails are I'm a neoclassical neoclassicism. That's how you used to talk. Who's jazz player. What's up Peter, we're talking 1986. Yeah, because I was young and I was like dogmatic and stuff.
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Unknown
Yeah, but I listen to this. I liked it, and I, and I, you know, I mean, that, they work when I was in high school, like in my high school to do a clinic, you know, because, but can I just say. Yeah. Although I think all of what we were just talking about is true, and I really like it, I know, I really like it, I like it, it's a vibe that takes me to the mid 80s and I like it and I.
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Unknown
So there's nothing wrong with that. That is dated. Yeah, but dated is not a bad thing. So I would say the same thing for me, for the Headhunters, it's like, yes, that's dated, but good. Sumi, I love the 70s. Sumi, I love the 80s. It's just the 80s musically and with the instruments and stuff had a certain kind of thing happening.
00:32:10:12 - 00:32:27:12
Unknown
Let's move on to the next track. This is born in the 80s, though you barely knew they I mean, I barely knew the 70s, Dun. I knew the 80s, I was around. Oh, right. This is cool. Weasel. Born in the 70s, 1978. We've talked about for high. I know what you mean. My name is Peter Fox. To be my friend.
00:32:27:13 - 00:32:58:09
Unknown
No. My birthday here's cool with 78 damn year old. Okay. Let's go. Cool weasel. What do you call. Yeah, there's some good names on this cool weasel. Boogie. Oh. Oh, this could totally be Eddie Murphy. Like, looking around, I know, I know, I know, this is a game. Carlos Rios on this. I'm. And John had a touching pad of two cheek on the Pullman acoustic double bass.
00:32:58:11 - 00:33:08:08
Unknown
They even have the brand name for the full name.
00:33:08:10 - 00:33:15:02
Unknown
There's a couple tracks with acoustic bass on this record. I forgot.
00:33:15:04 - 00:33:24:08
Unknown
Who I know. Who?
00:33:24:10 - 00:33:35:12
Unknown
That's the road type. It's gotta be who.
00:33:35:14 - 00:33:47:02
Unknown
You.
00:33:47:04 - 00:33:58:18
Unknown
Oh.
00:33:58:20 - 00:34:03:07
Unknown
She is laying it down.
00:34:03:08 - 00:34:12:07
Unknown
Oh, and welcome to the show.
00:34:12:09 - 00:34:49:17
Unknown
Oh it's great, dude, it's a chick. Corea's harmonic mind is so like. Oh, so interesting. Oh, I think they work. How to make a correct hit off of a chart or not on the chart? Not a problem for you. Krispy Kreme Krispy hits, but accurate to you know what I mean yeah I do, yeah. Like you can trust him.
00:34:49:19 - 00:35:02:19
Unknown
You do people think wow. Oh that's a D7 right? That.
00:35:02:21 - 00:35:26:12
Unknown
Oh, no. You. You. Oh, I mean, just chick had so much available to him during this time. It's like. And his musical mind, like he could he can help himself.
00:35:29:03 - 00:35:38:14
Unknown
I love.
00:35:39:14 - 00:35:49:14
Unknown
Love. Oh.
00:35:49:16 - 00:35:55:00
Unknown
I'll put you back with me.
00:35:55:02 - 00:36:03:12
Unknown
Oh. Yeah.
00:36:03:13 - 00:36:06:11
Unknown
Oh.
00:36:06:13 - 00:36:10:20
Unknown
Oh, that's counter Caroline's.
00:36:10:22 - 00:36:21:19
Unknown
Like, do you?
00:36:21:21 - 00:36:25:08
Unknown
Do.
00:36:25:10 - 00:36:36:18
Unknown
You.
00:36:36:20 - 00:36:42:02
Unknown
Do.
00:36:42:04 - 00:36:52:21
Unknown
You. Do you know what?
00:36:52:23 - 00:36:57:02
Unknown
Oh.
00:36:57:04 - 00:37:05:02
Unknown
Oh. Oh.
00:37:05:04 - 00:37:10:09
Unknown
Do.
00:37:10:11 - 00:37:19:06
Unknown
Oh, man. Baby. Oh. Oh.
00:37:19:07 - 00:37:43:21
Unknown
You. Oh. That's cool. Weezer. Boogie. So good again. Carlos Rios, John Pata touchy on the Pullman acoustic a double bass and Dave. Well, I mean, we typically are like that's that obviously is more than just a solid rhythm section. But what you hear on there and I'm sure there was some editing or whatever, but it it wouldn't have mattered if they hadn't edited anything.
00:37:43:21 - 00:38:05:10
Unknown
Like they can lay that down like pad a two key, like everything. I daresay everything was perfect that he played, but I think it was on that. And it's simple. It seems simple. Do doo doo doo doo and then like, but to just play that and then anything he adds in is right and whack all game. I mean, it's just like very high level, very, very high execution.
00:38:05:12 - 00:38:24:03
Unknown
Ten out of ten. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Both Dave, Michael and John Petrucci at this time are just men. They were just young monsters. Yeah, which is really good. I just actually this morning was telling me mid 20s. There's a bunch of of Dave a little lower around here in the Saint Louis region where we are because he's from this area.
00:38:24:05 - 00:38:43:02
Unknown
And I was just shot out Parkway West. I was just talking with, with someone who's a, I think about his age or maybe a little bit older today. And he was like, yeah, I remember him in high school and he was just like that. What? Like then he just sounds just like. Like he was just kind of came out.
00:38:43:02 - 00:39:13:10
Unknown
He had it. He had fully formed like that. So yeah. Okay. Well this leads us to now what is kind of the, the, the track probably people think about the pasta houses. Well if you say so. But this has got to match. And this is featuring de vocal and John Petrucci.
00:39:21:19 - 00:39:34:21
Unknown
Almost as clean as ours. This is a minor blues, my friend. Did you know that before?
00:39:34:23 - 00:39:45:04
Unknown
616 bars. You.
00:39:45:06 - 00:39:52:17
Unknown
That which is early on. Every one of those lines. Think.
00:39:54:04 - 00:40:20:06
Unknown
I remember seeing them play this live. This trio. And later, I think, like early 90s. Yeah.
00:40:20:08 - 00:40:27:02
Unknown
AMC. Relentless. All sing a line to.
00:40:27:04 - 00:40:43:00
Unknown
Them ascending whole steps. Chromatically. I love a single line. Yeah. So it frees up so much a Herbie was great. And how do you like to swing that? Well, we're going to talk about the swing.
00:40:43:02 - 00:40:56:23
Unknown
Of things are about to pop off right now. You gotta know that right? Things are about to get wild. Really?
00:40:57:01 - 00:41:03:17
Unknown
They do.
00:41:03:19 - 00:41:13:22
Unknown
Little Biggie's background.
00:41:14:00 - 00:41:25:00
Unknown
I mean, obviously Jocko inspired, but very, like, already patted some cheese and stuff. That is a paste, ladies, you know? Yeah.
00:41:29:12 - 00:41:45:01
Unknown
I'm. Getting you all right? I'm looking for toned down. Yeah. It's like.
00:41:45:03 - 00:41:48:02
Unknown
Oh.
00:41:48:04 - 00:42:06:19
Unknown
With cocaine. It's like. It's. No. Not been used. No, I'm saying I've never done that. But with that of heighten this or that, push you over the edge. Tell us more about your dry. I'm not sure. I've been around people that were. I'm taking. I don't think that that would be combustible combination this and coke was it. I have another question.
00:42:06:21 - 00:42:41:13
Unknown
What's this track produced for this very scenario of just two musicians? Yeah. Making faces while it is just so. It's so adventurous and clean and like, you know, like, well, it's just I don't know, it's so executed. But this is my fave. This was the influential solo. Crazy.
00:42:41:15 - 00:42:53:05
Unknown
A. Man who sold this section.
00:42:53:07 - 00:43:21:17
Unknown
That's a Billy cop. Him this stuff there. I mean. Yeah, it's.
00:43:21:19 - 00:43:40:20
Unknown
Crazy. This doesn't sound like it was edited, but it might have been. It's crazy, but they've got this, like this whole track. I got to go practice. Yeah. No part of the success for this is it. Just sounds like they just. They may have added a bunch of stuff. Who knows? But I saw them do this live, so they didn't need to.
00:43:40:22 - 00:44:05:12
Unknown
It is music that makes you want to go practice good, but it makes you pissed off a little bit. It's not a good. It's not a good feeling that. Tell me more about being pissed off. Well, no, it just it could make this relentless. It's relentlessly well-executed. Yeah.
00:44:05:14 - 00:44:19:13
Unknown
No. Oh. But it does. It doesn't feel ought to be as well-executed.
00:44:19:15 - 00:44:37:08
Unknown
It's actually not perfect. No, it's what makes it great. I mean, it's it's damn close. Damn. As close as you're going to get. But they went back and like, they did the opposite of, like they, they added it to make it not perfect. Some people be like, you gotta make it believable. Come on now. That's dated. Sorry, that ended.
00:44:37:10 - 00:45:00:18
Unknown
It's those are fade out. So okay so is that too clean. Is that okay. We're going to get to that. No, no I mean that's damn it's just a lot though. It was definitely made I think it's a lot. When they were in the studio they were like you know because they were technologists. And I think they were like, you know, seeing into the future, I feel like there's going to be a medium where just people talk about they sit around and they just talk about the music we're going to make.
00:45:00:18 - 00:45:18:08
Unknown
Let's make something for those people they're going to seek out. On sitting in a pod. In broadcasting, we'll come up with the name later. But yeah, it is now is is that like just an awesome meal where there's too much, too many calories in it, though? You know what I mean? Like, oh, my God, this dish is so great.
00:45:18:08 - 00:45:37:13
Unknown
You're at the restaurant anymore. I'm full. Like, it's almost like you get to fall listening to that. It's a bit of a it's not a big slice of chocolate cake, but it's like a, it's like a beautiful, like, like, cat chewy Pepe. But it's like a huge bowl of it. It might be a family sized bowl of Skittles, you know what I mean?
00:45:37:18 - 00:45:52:11
Unknown
Well, no, but it's got it. It's got substance to it. It's got, protein. It's got one as well. So I'm saying, like, it's a it's not just candy, it's a steak with Skittles on it. Maybe. So I don't know is great, but I mean, yeah. What we're going to get to that. All right. What else you got?
00:45:52:13 - 00:46:06:01
Unknown
We got to let can I, can I take any more? This is it doesn't. This is hard to. I know. Oh, yeah. It doesn't let up.
00:46:06:03 - 00:46:27:21
Unknown
This is my jam. No, I love this one. It was great. I. Now, this is Axel Foley. Going to check out the warehouse with the coffee grounds and the the. How did they not get the gig for that? So I like, you know, Beverly Hills Cop two something. Even the last one that just came out that was holding.
00:46:27:23 - 00:46:41:02
Unknown
A love supreme. We love supreme. A love supreme.
00:46:41:04 - 00:46:44:09
Unknown
Hey.
00:46:44:11 - 00:46:55:17
Unknown
Go up.
00:46:55:19 - 00:46:59:18
Unknown
What would you call this group?
00:46:59:19 - 00:47:10:15
Unknown
This is hard to to quite to qualify some of these groups. I love this group. That's killing some.
00:47:10:17 - 00:47:17:00
Unknown
Yeah. So great. So.
00:47:17:02 - 00:47:33:05
Unknown
Simmons. Yeah, I.
00:47:33:07 - 00:47:41:07
Unknown
Think its Maximus? Might be.
00:47:41:09 - 00:47:59:18
Unknown
Yeah. There's really not a 16th note unaccounted for. You're not.
00:47:59:19 - 00:48:13:18
Unknown
Carlos Rios again? Yeah, it's over there. Like, I really want you to play in this section. He's like, where? What?
00:48:13:20 - 00:48:25:09
Unknown
Do.
00:48:25:11 - 00:48:37:13
Unknown
Mad chicks mind for, like, the architecture of these phrases. Who do you put it? And.
00:48:37:15 - 00:48:55:01
Unknown
It's very melodic, but it's like it's got that that next level.
00:48:55:03 - 00:49:05:16
Unknown
Take another one. Come on. Throughout.
00:49:05:18 - 00:49:13:19
Unknown
Trade all the trade. I.
00:49:13:21 - 00:49:18:23
Unknown
Had L.A. in the 80s? Must have been fun.
00:49:19:01 - 00:49:38:11
Unknown
Yeah. I'm looking like this track is only, like, four minutes long. The whole track, it feels like. It's like 17 minutes of music in there, though. I think I like compressing, digitally, compressing. Put it on a floppy drive, disk compression.
00:49:38:13 - 00:49:50:18
Unknown
I didn't feel like doing it. Two minutes and 45 seconds. So fun. This one feels a little dated. That's right. This is how you say so.
00:49:50:19 - 00:50:47:23
Unknown
That's a very cheerful. Yeah. Great to it. Is the Simmons that dated a little bit. Yeah. Oh. So good. Oh, man. All right, I've got one more track and then we can check out some categories. This. Yeah. King cockroach. This features Scott Henderson on the guitar. Scott Henderson.
00:50:48:01 - 00:51:07:01
Unknown
This has some serious like, Domi and James. Check back. Yes. Vibes. This one very much influenced them.
00:51:07:03 - 00:51:26:11
Unknown
Oh, touchy. Stanley pasta two g killer. See what, two g. I gotta get good joke.
00:51:26:13 - 00:51:34:08
Unknown
Be.
00:51:34:10 - 00:51:48:14
Unknown
It's so clean. It's so ridiculously clean. That's. One of.
00:51:48:16 - 00:52:06:05
Unknown
I love these sounds. And then the chick hits. Because remember watching chick live? And. Yeah, sometimes you would get into this zone. Yeah. And just are like stairs musicians. And. Yeah, he's like a little grin. Right. And then you just feel that, like this year on the time. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:06:07 - 00:52:23:19
Unknown
He's got the killer, King Cocker like that. I love that track. To get to some categories here. Yeah. Peter, you got, you got a desert island track. Well, okay, I think this is one of the add on ones, but it's been there for for a while. Which is all love. Oh, like, I love this.
00:52:23:19 - 00:52:39:07
Unknown
Like, I actually, I think they recorded this on something else. Might even be one of those bootleg live ones. Okay, but to me, like, this is. Yeah, this is the one. Do you have it there on the I do, I have it right here. Yeah.
00:52:39:08 - 00:52:53:23
Unknown
Oh, this is great. It's a real. Oh. That might be Synclavier. There.
00:53:14:20 - 00:53:20:00
Unknown
I think that's the road's really.
00:53:20:02 - 00:53:39:13
Unknown
Going to the rackmount. It's like putting this string pad. Yeah. Maybe padded. Over there. So.
00:53:40:18 - 00:54:00:00
Unknown
Hum. Gorgeous. I mean, it's, you know, of course, it's always off the tracks. And then we can, when we get to the apex moment off the rails after. What'd you say? How mean, off the rails harmonies. Off the off the tracks. They're all the tracks off the rails. My my desert island track is definitely got a match.
00:54:00:02 - 00:54:16:22
Unknown
It looks to. It's just too much fun. Yeah. What about your apex moment? So if you go to about three minutes on here before you started, though, this, like, chick soul on this tune, the same thing. All of is amazing and pretty. Shout out jump out at oh my gosh, I'm on the show John. I'm on the show.
00:54:16:23 - 00:54:42:03
Unknown
No friend. I saw John recently made one of the sweetest guys in music, one of the best bass players. Obviously I'm not. I'm not coming up with any genius right there. Great insight. I mean, you, of course, Lester Holt called news alert NBC news flash jump, which is good at that. No, but I mean, he's he's just the consummate professional, but just so much soul on the instrument.
00:54:42:03 - 00:54:58:03
Unknown
I love him on the electric, on the acoustic. But I love this solo on here. And I think it's interesting placement on this record where it's just everybody's going. I mean, it's such a well and career driven record, obviously, but this solo to me, he wins the record.
00:54:58:05 - 00:55:06:02
Unknown
And this is right after Great Wreck. Solo from Chick.
00:55:06:04 - 00:55:15:01
Unknown
Oh my.
00:55:15:03 - 00:55:22:00
Unknown
Oh.
00:55:22:02 - 00:55:33:14
Unknown
I never go. So good. Number.
00:55:33:16 - 00:55:40:11
Unknown
Oh, my.
00:55:40:13 - 00:55:48:13
Unknown
Is.
00:55:48:15 - 00:56:06:01
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, let's go listen to it. Check it out, see what you think of it. But it's just a lot of humanity. And, like, so good. Pushing and pulling is is very different than than a lot of the rest of this record. But my apex moment was that, Dave record solo on got a match that we just did you I think that's the highlight of the album for me.
00:56:06:01 - 00:56:25:09
Unknown
Yeah. What about a bespoke Spotify playlist titled okay, I'm going with the Michelle Pfeiffer 80s vibe. That's the name. The name of the playlist. Yes. And there's I'm assuming there's a picture of Michelle Pfeiffer. Yeah. Scarface. Well, maybe even a little. I'm thinking, like, Tequila Sunrise. Oh, great. She's right around the time. I don't know if this is just the way this sounds.
00:56:25:14 - 00:56:43:02
Unknown
It really makes me think of, like, her in this period, those movies, you know, maybe. Mel, it's Mel Gibson. I don't think we can talk about him any more, though. Is he now, anyway, Michelle Pfeiffer, say more. 80s vibe. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. I have a few here. I have. Oh, and by the way, I'm sorry.
00:56:43:03 - 00:57:04:21
Unknown
On that playlist would be a little sandborn. Of course, you know, a little bit of, Yeah. You know, a little actual James guy. William James, of course. Yeah, yeah. I have three. I have minibar, minibar, minibar. Yeah, I have, guitar hero. Yeah. Guitar hero, guitar hero. Got it. And I have Yamaha swing, right. Oh, I got so many yamahas on this album.
00:57:04:22 - 00:57:22:16
Unknown
Oh, my God, it's like a I got one more cocaine cowboy. No, I can't do that. Okay. Okay. Up next, what other albums pair with this album? Okay. I've got, I don't even know if it was on a whole album. I think it was just a track, but he has some good stuff. John Hammer, hammer.
00:57:22:18 - 00:57:43:23
Unknown
John Hammer on Miami Vice. Great song. Yeah, I had that tape killing. Yeah. Also right around this time, maybe a year before, yeah, I think it was the year before. Dream of the dream of blue Turtles. Yeah. Sting. You know, very much I like I would put that record stylistically into some of that stuff. Close with this with Omar Hakim, Gerald Daryl Jones, of course.
00:57:43:23 - 00:58:10:06
Unknown
Kenny Kirkland. Yeah. Interesting. It's got a lot of connections for me, I like that. And also Wynton Marsalis, Jamie, same year, I have anything by Dream Theater, especially early Dream Theater, because this has a rock flair to it. Yeah. And they certainly have, that sort of rock fusion vibe. Push back a little on. Well, explain just a little bit of this, because I heard people talking about this record and researching this where they're like, yeah, this is really a, this is not, fusion.
00:58:10:08 - 00:58:28:07
Unknown
This is a rock jazz album. People say that, but I don't what makes it rock. Well, you know, some of those some of those guitar tones that Carlos Rios, excuse me, is playing on some of those melodies maybe. You know, it's definitely not like rock. Rock. So is that a jazz, jazz tinged rock? You know what I mean?
00:58:28:07 - 00:58:39:19
Unknown
Right, right. But I don't know. I mean, if you listen to like, you listen to Rumble.
00:58:39:21 - 00:58:58:10
Unknown
But what kind of I mean, rock at the time, I don't know, I guess my great. It's just it's I maybe it's aggressive, I don't know, I agree with you. This is not a definitely aggressive. Backing black. I also have, which I alluded to before, the Beverly Hills, hillbillies. Okay. I'm Beverly Hills hillbilly, cripple bits.
00:58:58:10 - 00:59:15:21
Unknown
We already we already talked about not exactly timeless. It's not exactly timeless. It's very time full in that it is very 80s sounding and. Yeah, I mean, where it was. When was it made? I Davies I have another clip a bit. And this is with sort of the style of, of composition and playing itself, which is just like is it?
00:59:15:23 - 00:59:41:03
Unknown
And we alluded to this to like the vibes are very rosy, you know what I mean? It's very well go and say the word you have here, I broke this, it feels very jock ish. Yeah. It's aggressive. It's a will be. Yeah. Associated with, pro culture at the time, which is not I mean, not a bad thing, but it's.
00:59:41:03 - 01:00:04:09
Unknown
Yeah, many a collar was popped. Is. Yes. Is this a little bit of a aggressive preppy? Like. That's what I'm thinking, dude. A Duke lacrosse player with like, a Walkman on listening to this get out of my way with his with his lacrosse. I love you, Duke University. Shout out Duke. My mom went to Duke Christian. Later, my mom literally my grandfather taught at Duke.
01:00:04:09 - 01:00:23:13
Unknown
So don't blame me. No, but you know what I'm saying? There's a little bit of that. Yeah, there's there's just there's, you know, everything's always the balance of the masculine and the feminine. Yeah. And this one might be a bit, Yeah, a little bit. My only quibble bits on this is, is it too clean? Is there not is it like two perfectly executed?
01:00:23:13 - 01:00:37:03
Unknown
Like, you can't say. That's because this style needs that. And these were the masters of that. I mean, I don't think so. When we talk, I mean, when we listen to God to match there, there were some like that was not. Yeah. And that really makes it like it takes the other. But that's the only track that's like that.
01:00:37:05 - 01:00:54:00
Unknown
And maybe that's because they're swinging on it. But it's like, is there enough stank? Like there's not a lot of back beats on this. Not that you need that. And when they go to it, it's not like it's weird because it's like in the pocket. But it's not. It's it's fusion pocket. I guess. I don't know, it is a little bit of the opposite of the sort of Herbie run that we talked about.
01:00:54:02 - 01:01:11:15
Unknown
Yeah. Where you just feel you feel that earthiness and it's just different. It's like personal preference. So this is not like a knock on this, because I think the way they're playing fits this music. It fits chick's conception. And like he got everybody to buy it. He got the right cats to do it. But to me there's maybe not quite enough stank on it.
01:01:11:17 - 01:01:28:04
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. But that's a quibble bit. That is a little bit you can quibble too with I think some of the just what it was he was why did he go all in on the yamahas and. Yeah, he was. So the other options he was not brand agnostic, but, there's other brands. I kind of dig it, actually.
01:01:28:09 - 01:01:50:04
Unknown
Yeah. Okay. So anemometer has not been pull up to the session of a Yamaha motorcycle. It's like a Yamaha receiver. He he was all in on the Yamaha motorcycle. Yeah. And he's like, you know, guys, it's just kind of a chainsaw. Yamaha Yamaha HT 86 I'm in. Yeah. Okay. Snap. Amateur. What do you got? I got a six.
01:01:50:04 - 01:02:05:13
Unknown
I feel like it is, because it's got some I mean, it could be a nine. Honestly. I mean, it's either a I don't know, I put seven, but now that I'm thinking it's either 1 or 10 maybe though. Right. It could be a ten. It could be a really not a one. This is this is a snobby album.
01:02:05:13 - 01:02:19:22
Unknown
This is a snob. Yeah. There is, there is no if in the in my, my homeland is not like this. She's not like it. So it's not a rock album. That's what I'm saying. This is not like a pop sellout kind of rock. Rock. I mean, not the rock is, I don't know, not at all. Okay. Is it better than Kobe?
01:02:19:23 - 01:02:38:01
Unknown
Well, no. No. Accouterment. I got ten out of ten, but this cover is a great car. Looks like how the music sound. But this is what I'm gonna say. They crushed this cover. I love what I put on here. I put either 1 or 10. That's a ten. Well, I've got ten out of your mind. I could make an argument for one.
01:02:38:01 - 01:02:53:07
Unknown
It's it's just a it's literally had neon sign like, you know, in a dive bar in 1986. Like you're telling me like leads landing shots, telling me about like leads landing. And I know I've seen people with this t shirt of this album. You got a black t shirt like that with this logo on it. I'm wearing it every day of the week.
01:02:53:07 - 01:03:13:00
Unknown
It's looks great. I will tell it's depending on the day of the week. I'll give you a one or a ten. Okay. All right. That's really all we got. Hey, listen, folks, we read your comments here on the air, so please leave us a comment either on Spotify, on YouTube. You could also leave us a rating and review over on your, your podcast.
01:03:13:03 - 01:03:40:16
Unknown
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01:03:41:04 - 01:03:59:17
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Yeah, let's play out with some, full version of, I've got a match, full version. Till next time you'll hear it.
01:06:02:15 - 01:07:03:04
Unknown
Oh. Oh.
01:07:03:06 - 01:07:09:22
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